In scoring models, let user toggle each metric added to treat a "null" value as max, min, or zero

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Currently, if a metric is missing it punishes that security's score. So, for example, if you add LTD, a company without any debt may be treated as the worst in the group. We should let users choose the behavior.

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Good idea. LOTS of work....just need to know if worth it.

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Hi Han,

I know we talked about this when I was there, but I'm trying to visualize this problem. I created a saved screen with only long term debt, lower is better and got this:

https://ycharts.com/screener/company/#/?metricFilters=&page=1&securitylistFilters=method:add,name:all_equities,group:company,,method:intersect,name:major_us_exchanges,group:company,,method:intersect,name:index_sandp_500,group:company&ratings=1-attractive,2-neutral,3-avoid,4-unrated&screen=&sort=648686&sortDirection=asc&onlyPrimaryShares=false&orderedColumns=name:currency_code,type:infoField,,name:total_long_term_debt,type:metric,,name:648686,type:score


Putting aside the unrelated UAL issue.... this looks fine to me.... Can you give me a link that illustrates what he's talking about?

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The issue is companies that don't have a value listed for debt. "Null" values are ranked last. At one point we'd discussed allowing a user to toggle between a null value being treated as "0" "max" or "min". I'm quite sure this is what he's asking for.

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Not sure why these companies would be filtered out if there was a "0" backfilled.

Also, an example here:

https://ycharts.com/companies/COOL/total_long_term_debt_annual

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Hmm yeah i missed because the NULLs were ending up at the bottom... Should we infill debt numbers as 0 as a stop gap?

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Requested by Mike Chen - Byrne Asset Mgmt $7,500

"Hi kyle,

In the ycharts website’s equity screener tool that has customizable “scoring models”. It seems like for the data points that do not exist, the default value is -1. When we use this for our scoring models, these data points really skew the final rankings. Is there a way to set these blanks to 0 instead?


It is not so bad by itself. But if we have a group of 8-10 data points in a scoring model, and a few of them are missing, it really screws up the score.

Thanks,

Mike"

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We are planning on finishing this by end of year, it will only be available in the redesign, not the old site.

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